Unlock hidden revenue in your tax practice without adding new clients. In this episode, Roger Nemeth of Tax Help Software joins Eric Green to discuss how tax pros can leverage the software to make more money during tax season and become heroes to their clients. Roger shares how account monitoring, penalty abatement opportunities, and proactive IRS transcript tracking can transform your practice. Learn how firms can generate an extra $150K per year by catching issues early, uncovering missed refunds or credits, and strengthening client relationships. If you want to boost your bottom line while providing even more value to your clients, this episode is packed with actionable strategies.
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How To Add An Extra $150K This Coming Tax Season With Roger Nemeth By Tax Rep Network
I am joined here at Green & Sklarz in my office by Roger Nemeth from Tax Help Software. Roger, thank you for flying all the way up from Florida to do this.
Funny enough, the temperature was almost identical in Florida and here, which I never understood it.
New England is weird. It was 90, and then it got down to 40, and then it went back to 70. It’s whatever. Anyway, what I want to talk about, because this is something we get more and more into, and I get tax rep members getting more and more into, is I decided, how do you add $150,000 this tax season using Tax Help Software? We’ve talked about monitoring, we’ve talked about some of this stuff, but I want to get into it. For those of you who don’t know, what Tax Help Software does is, ostensibly, it pulls transcripts, but it does much more.
We can pull all the transcripts, the wage and earning reports, and all of that stuff. It then will generate the best report in the industry. None of the other players have a report like this. It calculates the CSED, it will flag first-time abatement opportunities. You can monitor to see if things kick out if they go to audit or if they come out of collection. I found out about offers being accepted before we got the letter. You get it because the system flagged it. It’s not much money.
When people tell me, “I should have it,” whatever, it’s become an annuity for us. That’s what I want to talk about. What can people do with Tax Help Software to generate, first of all, money, but quite frankly, help your clients? We can talk about monitoring, we can talk about looking for potential refunds. Also, especially if you’re using an outside payroll company, to see when things get filed, make sure the returns got in, all of that.
Confirm they filed. It is because we all know, we’ve all sent returns and made the assumption they were there, only to find out later. If you’ve been doing taxes long enough, at some point, you thought something was submitted. This is the validation of that from the IRS’s standpoint.
What do you want to start with?
Let’s start with how account monitoring began. I’ve been doing this internally since 2009. We used it as an internal product. That’s how it developed. In 2012, one of the big resolution firms found us. Before that, I wasn’t doing it for resolution. We were doing it for monitoring, basically looking for refunds, and making sure the income filed on returns was correct so we didn’t get a CP2000 later on. Ended up getting discovered by one of the big resolution companies. They ended up, between 2012 and 2013 or 2014, implementing it.
That was our first big operation. We did 30 million transcripts that year, which that one company downloaded three times as many transcripts as the rest of the country combined. That was the game-changer there. What we came up with was, I recommended to them, once you’re done with a resolution, how many resolution clients have recidivism? How many people do you get into an installment agreement, only eight months later are booted out of the installment agreement, or get into an offer and don’t do their estimated payments?
This started as a function of monitoring resolution clients for a fee. For example, one of the ideas we came up with was that if somebody makes an offer in compromise, they have to stay compliant for five years. Why not sell them the tax return preparation for the next five years in advance, where you will do their next five returns? Some firms started to build it in and said, “We’re not going to do an offer unless you let us do the next five returns.” It is because the problem is, if somebody gets kicked out of an offer, and it’s no fault of the tax professional, you’d be surprised how many times they blame the tax professional.
The goal here was to force them to remain compliant and not file a complaint over five years. It was a huge issue. They were getting people offers that failed out of them in eight months and said, “That was the worst experience I ever had. I got booted out.” They leave out the part they got booted out for non-compliance. They didn’t do what they were supposed to do. Pursuant to that, we tend to see the same clients in tax resolution over and over and over. Helping them maintain their compliance is a service. Over the years, once we started to launch out, one of the misnomers with Tax Help Software is it’s a resolution product.
Why The 8821 Form Is Better For Monitoring
I developed it when my parents owned the Jackson Hewitt franchise, and we did it to find refunds and roughly monitor the accounts, but not near the level we do now. 75% to 80% of our users derive a majority of their income from tax prep, not tax resolution. Over the past decade, we’ve been developing IRS account monitoring for tax offices. A lot of people are like, “What would I have to do?” One of the things is, that you have to get access to your client’s data. The best way, in my opinion, to do that is through an 8821 form, as opposed to a POA attorney, which has more liability. It has more capabilities for an EA/CPA, but for monitoring, you only need an 8821.
Let me explain how we got into this. When we finish a case, we would revoke the power of attorney. I don’t want to sit and babysit because you get the notices the next year. We’re now emailing people we haven’t seen in a year. We’re not getting paid for this. When we close the case, we revoke power of attorney, take the POA with the line through it, revoke, fax it in, done, or upload it now. You can now even go online and revoke there. When you revoke, the taxpayer gets that letter.
It’s a nasty letter.
It scares the hell out of everyone. Basically, “Eric Green has dumped you. We’re now going to deal directly with you. If there’s a problem, we’re coming after you.” I don’t remember the language.
It’s, “We no longer have to go through your representative. We’re coming straight to you.” Even though they might still be your client as a tax professional, you may have decided to withdraw your POA from them. The way the IRS makes it sound is you have reported to the IRS that you are no longer involved with that customer, which scares the hell out of the customer.
We have customers, our clients, go, “Why are you firing me?” We’re not firing you. The case is over. If you need us, come back. They’d be like, “I want you to keep your power of attorney on file.” Off the cuff, I’m like, “$500. We’ll keep it on for a year and get an updated power of attorney.” It was my consult fee at the time. People started paying for it. All of a sudden, we were like, wait a minute. We now ask every single client, “Do you want us to maintain our power of attorney and monitor?” We charge $500 for the year.
Virtually everyone pays. When you get up to 150, 153, wherever we are now, at $500, it’s a $75,000–$72,000 annuity. Here’s what happens. Once a month, Nicole logs into Tax Help Software and updates and pulls everybody. It does, what, a hundred thousand transcripts an hour? Give or take. The point is, within an hour, we have everything, and that dashboard pops up, and she scrolls through and she’ll flag, “This client is now at a collection,” or “This client has now been flagged for an audit,” or whatever.
Tracking IRS activity on client cases is critical. Tax Help Software updates transcripts daily, detecting changes long before IRS notices even go out. Share on XIn Tax Help Software, there’s a change log, you don’t have to look for the changes. We show you, I think it’s fifteen different fields, like, “Your client went from not filing to filing,” or, “An amended return dropped.” It also shows all the different levels of collection. It’ll show a pending installment agreement and an accepted installment agreement. It’ll show a pending offer changing to an accepted or rejected. You see the difference, you see any time these set fields change a value. You can even track, “Tell me every time a payment is made.” That gets a little excessive, but some people want to see it. Some people don’t want to see it and opt not to see it in their change log.
The point is now we can send them an email, “You have been flagged for this,” or “We have a problem,” or whatever. There are a number of things. One, they feel better because we’re watching. Two, we have the annuity stream coming in. Here’s the other thing, they’re not going anywhere else. When we say, “You’ve got this,” they say, “Get me a new engagement letter, and I want you guys to take care of this.” Effectively, we have the annuity. We’ve now, not locked them in, but we’ve tied them to us. I’ve not had anyone say, “Thanks for letting me know. I’m going to go find somebody new.”
Let me touch on that. In monitoring, you’re not giving them this insurance policy that says if they get in trouble in the future, you’re going to work their next case for free. Monitoring is merely, “There’s an issue. If you would like to re-engage us, we can fix it.” I managed tax franchises for close to 7 or 8 years, on and off, early on in my career. That’s what I did. After tax season was over, we spent our summer reacting to clients coming into the office. That’s what started me thinking, isn’t there a way we can validate income that they filed beforehand?
How can we start reaching out to people before they have an issue? What we saw was our retention of people that we were able to reach out to and advise of a problem before the IRS did, they didn’t leave us. They also didn’t blame us. When you call a taxpayer up and say, “Mr. Smith, you forgot to give us two 1099-Rs. However, I can’t save you the tax money. You’re going to have a hefty tax bill. What I can do is reduce the penalty,” because with the IRS interest rate, I believe at 8%, it’s the highest it’s been in a very long time.
What happens is, if the IRS waits a year and a half, say, to drop a CP2000 on a $20,000 tax bill, the problem is that $20,000 becomes $40,000 almost instantly, through possibly a failure to file, possibly a failure to pay, an accuracy-related. The interest accrues daily at 8% since the filing deadline. It doesn’t start the day the IRS discovers it, it goes back to April 15. It’s not going to double for everybody because they may have filed. You don’t get the failure to file, you only get the failure to pay on the amount. I have seen tax debts double by penalty and interest before the taxpayer got the first bill.
How First-Time Penalty Abatement Can Recover Thousands
We’ve got the monitoring aspect. It dawned on me because we also use it for penalty abatement. One, because I need to see the client’s history. If you’re going to go for penalty abatement, reasonable cause, one of the things that the IRS looks at is, what is this taxpayer’s history? Have they had prior abatements? Are they been good doobies, or are they a wreck? The software will flag those first-time abatements. “You have a first-time abatement on this year, this year.” We started, just off the cuff, “We could probably get your money back on this, or we can get it and reduce your balance for the penalty abatement case.”
It dawned on us that we’re pulling these anyway. Why don’t we do it for everybody? Building into our letter, you’re agreeing that if we find a penalty abatement opportunity, we’ll run it by you. If you want us to pursue it, we are going to keep 25% of whatever we recover, 20% or 30%, whatever you want. It’s found money for something we’re already doing anyway. Again, under Circular 230, contingency fees are okay for a refund, credits, penalties, and whistleblowers.
I have an example of that. Had a user very early on, as we were throwing monitoring out as an idea and not a structured program. I would always talk about it and say monitor, but I didn’t have a program. They would monitor the software, but I didn’t have advertising materials. We’ll talk about that in a minute. A gentleman calls me up in May and says, “This was fantastic.” He goes, “I was sitting around in my office in May. You always talk about all this stuff that your program does.”
It was a CPA that had 750 or 800 clients. It wasn’t quite a thousand. He said he went through his list and found a first-time penalty abatement. It was for $70,000 or $80,000. He was a dentist. I think it was part of whatever it was. I don’t remember the exact details of the penalty. He goes, “I had a PLA already.” He happened to do Power of Attorney instead of 8821. I recommend the 8821.
In his case, he had the PLA, so he didn’t have to reach out to the client again. He calls PPL, the practitioner line, on a fluke on an afternoon. He said, “My name is John Smith. I’m a CPA representing Bob Jones. I’m asking for a first-time penalty abatement for $75,000 for 2017.” The IRS person asked a couple of questions, verified identity, and made sure they had CAF as they do.
They came back 10 or 15 minutes later and said, “Happy to announce we’re giving your client a first-time penalty abatement of $75,000. They’ll receive a letter in 7 to 10 days. Thank you very much. Have a good day.” His problem was that he hadn’t worked out his fees with the client and got them a $75,000 first-time penalty abatement. He called me up, and I said, “If it were me, I would probably charge somewhere around, I felt like $15,000 was a good number, maybe 20% of what the penalty is.”
The client didn’t know that this person had been through advanced training from my first-time abatement class, had taken other classes to educate themselves, and paid for software that helped them identify the issue. I don’t think $15,000 is an excessive penalty. It’s the old joke about the engine mechanic that shows up, taps the engine with a hammer, and it starts right up.
The guy said, “Why am I paying you $1,000?” He goes, “I hit the engine with a hammer.” He goes, “It’s where to hit it and how hard, that’s why it’s $1,000.” It’s the same thing here. He ended up calling the client up, and it took him two days. It is because, again, if the IRS letter showed up saying, “Congratulations, you already got it,” he wasn’t going to get any fees. He ended up getting $12,000 in fees, and literally, he went through everybody else. You’re rarely going to have a $75,000 penalty abatement, don’t get me wrong. You are going to see penalty abatements in the thousands of dollars.
When you get a client an extra $1,000 or an offset of tax debt that can help offset your fees, that customer is not going anywhere because they’re not getting it anywhere else. I won’t say how many Tax Help Software users we have out there, but there are 700,000 tax professionals on the P10 list. Maybe it’s 650 or 750, it varies. Not near that amount use THS. This is a service that you’re going to be offering that not many other people do. The program started to migrate into a tax prep monitoring product.
We added the change log. We also did some things around that made things better. It was one thing for me to tell you there was a first-time penalty abatement opportunity. It is because some of our users were going back into the ’90s and the 2000s. Sometimes, the refund statute expiration date has already expired. A first-time abatement where you don’t owe any money on that year and the RSEP has expired doesn’t do you any good. There’s no money to be had. There’s no benefit to be derived from it.
We launched what’s called an issue opportunity report, which combines different things. One of those things is, that anytime we spot a refund opportunity, whether it’s a first-time abatement or a miscredit, we start looking for certain miscredits based on what was on the return. If we find anything, we tell you how much refund statute is still available. There might be a $2,000 refund still available. If the RSEP amount is $2,000, that doesn’t mean you’re getting $2,000 back. You still have to have a valid claim for a first-time abatement, and an amended return with a refund. The RSEP is what’s available for a refund with a valid claim.
What we’ve since done is we launched Tax Help Software’s co-pilot program. If you go to TaxHelpSoftware.com/copilot, it is a program we put together at no cost for Tax Help. You pay us for Tax Help Software. It’s an additional feature that you don’t pay extra for, but it’s a checklist of how to get your organization started with a co-pilot. It’s a series of short videos that have my talking head in the lower corner because I’m your co-pilot.
What it is, is I’m telling you how I would use the product if I was still managing a tax office. The important reason is Tax Help Software has users that pull a million transcripts every day. We have users who pull five transcripts once a month. There is a wide range. What I do here is, I should tell you how I would use the program. There are different ways to pull transcripts. You can pull every transcript for everybody in your firm, or you can pull for select people. I tell you how I would do it, you’re not deciding how to do it in your firm.
Tax Help Software doesn’t just pull transcripts—it detects audits six months in advance, identifying over 90% of cases before the IRS even notifies clients. Share on XSome people don’t want to be presented with eighteen menu options. We are the Cheesecake Factory of options in the program. This is me saying, “I’m going to recommend you try this, this, and this because this is what works.” If you want to deviate from that, we have that capability. However, this is how to do it. Don’t go off my path, and it’ll be very easy for you. I explained to try to get at least one employee who’s dedicated to this once a week.
Other than the first time you start to pull transcripts on your people, once it becomes a maintenance thing, it becomes very easy in the annuity. The first time you run Tax Help Software looking for refund opportunities, you could have a couple of months’ worth of work, but it’s all going to be revenue opportunities for you.
For everyone, you’ve got monitoring. You’ve got both monitoring in terms of someone you’ve done representation for, monitoring for the returns that have gone in, and payments that have been made and hit the account. You’ve got the refund opportunity. That’s all on the side of the fact that it does all the resolution stuff. It does my offers. It does our installment agreements and our powers of attorney. The program is the cornerstone of how we run a $5 million practice. Even beyond that, for the folks that are like, “I don’t know, I don’t want to spend, is it even a thousand? I don’t even know what it costs.”
Fully loaded, minus the bankruptcy calculator, which very few people need, if you need it, it’s the best on the market, most of our users pay between $600 a year and $750. The difference is we have a tax resolution package that has the collection forms. We’ve started to add state collection forms to that, the 433s. Not everybody needs it. That’s why it’s an option. The license is $600 a year.
If you don’t use Tax Help Software, we have a six-month package that includes everything, including the bankruptcy calculator and the resolution package. It’s $250 for six months for anybody who is a new user. We do that because it gives you the ability to see what you’re going to need in the program. When you renew at the end of six months, you’ll either renew at $600 or $750.
By the way, I charge bankruptcy attorneys $750 to run the report. We probably make $10,000 a year generating the transcript report for people. We’ll have them go, “Where did you get this?” “Tax Help Software.” My point is it pays for itself with us 100 times over.
I’ve never seen somebody reach out to me and say, “I didn’t see the value.” I’ve logged in with people who are like, “I don’t see the value.” I’ll log in. If they’ve only pulled transcripts on six people, I can’t help them. If you’re not willing to take that step and start looking at the client data, you have to be able to pull the 8821s and do this. You have to be committed at least that far. Anybody that’s had over a hundred clients they pulled transcripts for in the first-time penalty abatement opportunities has been paid back tenfold what the product cost, without even getting into the weeds of everything else that’s out there.
The reason I wanted to talk and do this now, for the folks tuning in, is that this is the time to implement, right before the coming tax season. Why? It is because this tax season, you want to put in your letters, “We now offer monitoring. We will also look for first-time penalty abatement opportunities.” Again, build it right into your letter that you’re agreeing that we keep whatever percentage and have them do the 8821 as part of the tax prep process.
That’s the best time to do it.
You upload them now for the year. You can monitor. You can look for those first-time abatements. Even if the client is like, “I don’t want the monitoring,” you can be like the other person, you can pull the transcript reports, find people who do, call them, and say, “I think there’s an opportunity. If we can recover, can we keep 25%?” Almost everyone will be like, “Found money? Sure. Knock yourself out.”
How To Detect Audits Six Months In Advance
Some users have had a good idea. What they do is they’ll pull an 8821 on every customer, no matter if they sign up for monitoring or not. The difference is they still want to monitor clients because there are still revenue opportunities. Let’s say Eric didn’t pay for monitoring, he was one of my clients. The way that would work is, and we didn’t talk about it extensively, but Tax Help Software will detect audits and exams more than six months in advance over 90% of the time.
For CP2000s, the third week of May will compare the wage and income transcript to the return transcript and tell you a full year before the IRS starts looking at CP2000s if there’s an income mismatch. Our users were reaching out to all their CP2000 potential clients by June 1st, which lowered their penalties significantly. If I call Eric up, let’s say I detect an audit for Eric that’s beginning, whether it’s a correspondence audit, a field audit, or a CP2000, “Eric, it’s Roger Nemeth, your enrolled agent. I’m here. We got alerted that you are being reviewed. Technically, the audit hasn’t begun yet, but the IRS has begun a review of your records. It’s not a full audit yet.”
They’re reviewing to see if they want to audit. You didn’t pay for our monitoring service. “It is because you didn’t pay for monitoring, I’m going to charge you $200 for you to come in, and we’re going to go ahead and review your tax return and establish what the exam potentially will be on. If you were one of my monitoring clients and paid me my $200 a year, or $100 or $300, most people charge between $100 and $300 for monitoring.” With this caveat, a high-dollar CPA firm, of them will charge upwards of $1,000 or $1,500. You know your clients.
I have tax rep members charging $95 a month.
By month works well. There are a lot of people out there doing the monthly, and it’s a continuing thing with a subscriber service. That probably is the best way to go. With somebody like Eric, you’ve thrown that offer, if you do monitoring going forward, I’ll do the consultation for free, but you’ve got to pay me for the monitoring service. You get them again for monitoring.
Again, if that person had got a CP2000 notice six months later, me managing the tax offices as I did, I knew a lot of people would get that letter and wouldn’t bring it to us. They would blame us for it and go to somebody else the next year. By reaching out and saying, “Eric, you have a missing 1099-R,” he can’t turn around and go, “You forgot it on my return.” “Oh no, I’ve got your customer data sheet. You didn’t list the 1099-R.” We caught it through a secondary check that we do as part of our everyday services. It’s going to cost you a little bit more because you didn’t sign up for monitoring, but we still caught it.
The audit detection piece, the IRS is ramping up collections. Think of it as the biggest ship in the world. It doesn’t turn on a dime. The IRS has all this money. What you’re going to see is, over the next 1 to 5 years, you’re going to see the ship turn around and return to 2009 or 2010 levels. I think they’re going to get aggressive again.
That’s the whole point. When Congress funded the $80 billion, it was because of the TIGTA report about 10 million non-filers, many of them high-income earners. “Why are you not going after them?” If you’re reading, you can go Google TIGTA, which is the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration. It was the May 29, 2020 report on non-filers. Congress read that and was like, “Why are we not going after them?” At the time, it was Chuck Rettig. He said, “We’re going to go after them.” We went into COVID shutdown. Commissioner Werfel has picked right up where Chuck left off. They clawed back, like, $17 billion of the $80 billion?
IRS collections operate like a massive ship—it doesn’t turn quickly. But over the next 1-5 years, expect a major shift back to aggressive enforcement. Share on XI thought it was $20 billion. Whatever it was, it was close to that.
They’re now threatening again. My read is the Senate is not going to go along. I think they may not claw back much if anything. The point is that the IRS is saying, for the next five years, they’re still good. The clawbacks are going to hit them in those last 2 to 3 years that they had planned on. We’re going to see, once we get past all this potential government shutdown nonsense, for those folks who are reading too, I think it was episode 150 with Rocco Steco, the Director of Collection Policy, about a month ago, he said, “We don’t want to go into a government shutdown when we drop the hammer on people from back.” Once we get past that, they’re going to ramp up. More people are going to be looking for help.
You have the monitoring, you have looking for the refunds, monitoring the payments in, all of the resolution stuff, as well as when you have these reports. If I were a CPA, I would put a tax alert newsletter out to bankruptcy lawyers, about the need for transcripts, whether it’s discharge or what’s missing, and whether there are refund opportunities. If you have clients that want help with this, we can generate a 28-page report, and get it to you, it has everything. You will pay for the software ten times over with that. The partners here go over our software every year, “Do we want to switch with this?” Tax Help Software, it’s a no-brainer. There’s no debate. We’re making money on that. That’s good.
Let me touch on that briefly. We’ve started to get more competitors. The IRS opened up an API about a year and a half ago. What it said is that for years, I screen-scraped the IRS website. You put your login credentials in, and we would go get the transcripts, and we made our own API. We could only do about 18,000 transcripts a day for everybody using the program.
Each person could do about 12,000 to 18,000 a day. When the API came out, it made it easier for businesses to write code to download transcripts. I’ve never been worried about other people downloading transcripts. The trick of what we did is it took me five years to develop the reports and the logic, and nobody has ever come close. Some people look like us. I’ve heard our competitors give sales pitches, and one of them said, “Obviously, we’re not as good as THS, it is the best, but we’re good enough.”
That’s an overwhelming sales pitch.
I was going on after them, and if they didn’t choose their words wisely, they would have got it handed to them. Some people are saying, “We’re doing account monitoring now. We detect changes.” One of the companies that’s doing that now checks to see if the file size changes. You don’t know what the change is. They say, “There’s a change on the transcript because the file size changed.” We not only point out what the change is, we tell you what the change was from. Just because saying something changed, you don’t know what it was before it changed.
I have to tell you, when I first found the software, Jeff Sklarz and I ran a report on someone, and it had the CSET calculated for the collection statute expiration date. Jeff and I looked at it, and he’s like, “We’re not relying on that.” We did everything by hand. It was very accurate. I did a lien discharge a couple of years ago for a client, and I sent them the report, and we got the payoff letter.
When you get a payoff from the IRS, it lists, by year, how much interest and penalty have accrued, and it calculates out to date if you’re going to do a closing or whatever else. I sent it to the client. The client called me and said, “That earliest year, I think, is expired.” I pulled the transcripts. It was expired. I faxed the lien unit back the report, saying, “Here’s our report. I believe this year is expired, and the payoff should only be this.”
It was a big amount if I remember.
They wanted them to pay $72,000. Twenty-eight thousand of it was that first of the four years. They didn’t respond but faxed me back a new payoff with that year gone. It is fantastic. To wrap this up, for the folks tuning in, I’ll put a link below. Go get Tax Help Software. The time to implement this is now because, come this time, you don’t want to start trying to do it in February. You and I both know, let’s be blunt, it’s going to be chaotic. You do it now. When your organizers go out at the end of the year, this is part of the deal, they’re going to sign the 8821.
We have the two 56-month, if you’re not already a THS user, from November 1st, which takes you through to May 1st, I believe. For $250, if you don’t get your money back and you don’t at least look at 100 clients, call me, and I’ll take a look with you.
There’s too much money left on the table. Also, you elevate yourself beyond any other preparer they’ve dealt with. No other preparer has done that. We can monitor. We can find stuff.
If you’re skeptical and you’re somebody that’s like, “I don’t want to pull 8821s on everybody,” I do have people that say, “Let me pull them on my elderly clients that always forget wage and income documents.” Any of my clients that have any of the schedules are the ones that tend to have the biggest issues. They narrow it down to their Schedule C, their Schedule D’s and E’s, and F’s if you’re out west.
The person that shows up with a W-2, you don’t have to worry about them.
It’ll look for some of the credits, the lower-income tax credits, and stuff. You’d be surprised how many people miss that.
How To Secure A $150K Revenue Boost In Tax Season
Check out the link below. Go check out Tax Help Software. I’m going to be doing a webinar for my members. I might open it up to everybody. Look for me to post something. I will be doing a free webinar on basically how to add $150,000 to your practice with Tax Help Software. You don’t have to go get new clients or anything else, just with what you have. There’s a lot of gold you haven’t uncovered yet. Look for that. Everyone, thanks for tuning in. Roger, thanks for stopping in. It’s awesome as always.
Thanks for having me.
